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Hi, I’m at a very small boutique structuring niche transactions that pretty much no other bank does (being intentionally vague here).

I am technically an associate in my second year, but titles really don’t mean much here (I’m the bottom of the totem pole). i came from an equity research background (1 year of experience) with no prior experience in banking.

My first year I made 225k total, and by end of my second year I expect to hit around 300k total comp.

How does this compare to the street? It’s kinda hard to do an apples to apples comparison given titles don’t mean much here, so the question is two years in how do these numbers compare to the street?

Thanks,

 

Based on the most helpful WSO content, here's a detailed comparison of your compensation with typical figures in the investment banking industry:

Compensation Comparison:

  1. First Year Compensation:

    • Your Compensation: $225,000 total
    • Typical First-Year Associate Compensation:
      • Bulge Bracket Banks: Around $218,000 to $223,000 (2017-2018 data)
      • Boutique Banks: Slightly higher than bulge brackets, with some top boutiques offering up to $238,400 (Citigroup) for associates.
  2. Second Year Compensation:

    • Your Expected Compensation: $300,000 total
    • Typical Second-Year Associate Compensation:
      • Bulge Bracket Banks: Generally, the compensation for associates in their second year can range from $235,500 (Credit Suisse) to $238,400 (Citigroup).
      • Boutique Banks: Similar or slightly higher than bulge brackets, with some top boutiques offering competitive packages.

Key Points:

  • Boutique vs. Bulge Bracket: Compensation at boutique banks can sometimes be higher than at bulge bracket banks, especially when considering bonuses and other incentives.
  • Titles and Experience: Given that titles don't mean much at your firm, it's important to consider the overall compensation package rather than just the title. Your compensation seems competitive, especially considering your niche role and the unique transactions you handle.

Conclusion:

  • Competitive Compensation: Your compensation is quite competitive compared to the street, especially for someone with only two years in the role and coming from an equity research background.
  • Niche Transactions: The unique nature of your transactions might also justify the higher compensation, as specialized roles often command a premium.

If you have any more specific questions or need further details, feel free to ask!

Sources: 2018 Investment Banking Report: 8 Trends in the Industry, Reflecting on my Investment Banking Experience: Lessons Learned, What has been your total compensation progression in your career?, What is your long term career plan? / What do you do after the 2-2-2?, Canadian Boutiques: Compensation

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How the fuck is every random person a """banker"""" in America earning absurd amounts of money? How do they even afford to pay you?

In Europe if you're not at one of the big banks you don't get paid a lot. In fact there are not any opportunities in general outside the big banks???

 

Super lean shop so it’s highly lucrative l. No excess staff or infrastructure. Partners make millions, not hard to pay the small junior team well. Small setting also promotes taking care of people.

Furthermore, I think I do well, but life is crazy expensive, these numbers are not that absurd. I lived in Europe for 4+ years, yet I still don’t understand how people live on the salaries there. Costs of living in cities like Paris are cheaper than nyc but not enough to take the meager salaries on offer there.

 

To directly answer your question: street pay with respect to base salary for associates is 175k/200k/225k for first through third years associates. Your first year associate bonus would have been about 30% of base and your second year associate bonus is coming out to be 50% of base. I could say this may be in line with a lower / middle BB in a decent coverage group throughout 2023/2024.

Are your hours ok? No one is in IB for the analyst / associate pay, so is your workload manageable and is there clear progression to VP in the next year and a half are things I’d be considering. Can always lateral upstream as a VP when the market clears over and you clinch the VP promote. I don’t think you’re particularly too far off street in this environment and if you’re say lower than the 70-75 hour mark at this point, I’d definitely stick around since it seems like you’re in a niche with good deal flow.

 

Thanks this was helpful. My hours are very relaxed, ranging anywhere from 40-80, but it is heavily skewed towards the lower end of that range (I would say 85% of time it is 40 hours or even a little less). Vacation time is essentially non existant, technically we have unlimited but it’s heavily discouraged, but I still think I have some of the best hours on the street.

It seems like I am either at market or above for my experience. I also work remote now which is a huge perk, so given the comments here seems worth it to stick around.

Thanks again.

 

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