Does Asset-Based Finance Get Carry?
Trying to get a read on comp structure for asset-based finance groups at the big platforms (BX/BXCI, Apollo/Athene-adjacent, KKR, Ares, etc.).
A lot of this stuff sits in perpetual or insurance-funded vehicles where the firm's earning an incentive/origination spread rather than classic GP carry with a hurdle. So is there even a carry pool to allocate, or is it cash comp + some "incentive comp" bucket that just tracks NII?
Specifically:
- Do associates on these teams get any carry/profit interest, or does it start higher up?
- Does it depend on whether the strategy is a closed-end ABF fund vs feeding an insurance balance sheet / perpetual vehicle?
- For teams that run flat (associate → principal, no VP), where does the economics actually kick in?
Based on the most helpful WSO content, asset-based finance (ABF) groups at major platforms like BX, Apollo, KKR, and Ares often operate differently from traditional private equity structures. Here's what you need to know:
Carry Structure in ABF:
Associates and Carry:
Flat Team Structures:
In summary, carry in ABF groups is less common at the associate level and is highly dependent on the fund structure (closed-end vs. perpetual/insurance vehicles). Compensation is more likely to include cash and incentive-based components tied to NII rather than traditional carry pools.
Sources: Carried interest for Associates / Senior Associates?, REIT Compensation at the Analyst level?, Data: Average Private Equity Compensation and Carry from Associate to Managing Partner
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