Why Are Junior Bankers More Unattractive Today Than They Were In The Golden Age?

I've noticed from anecdotal evidence my family members in finance have said that analyst classes at BBs and merchant banks used to be filled with tanned 6'3 lacrosse/rugby kids from WHYP + fratty selective schools like Dartmouth who came from Andover/Exeter/Deerfield and embodied the image of a polished banker in every respect, from attire to musculature to hair to their face.

Nowadays the junior bankers I interact with and see on LinkedIn tend to be glasses-wearing, short, acne-riddled lanky indian/asian/diversity kids with haircuts from Supercuts.

Is this even good for business on the sell-side? I get that buy-side is a lot more meritocratic, and who knows, these kids can very well be "smarter" due to their work ethic vs a frat star at UVA PIKE who spends his weekends doing bag and racking up kills, but on the sell-side, appearances matter. After all, it's a sales job, especially as you become an ASO/VP and client interaction is a big part of your day-to-day responsibilities. This means that only extroverted, good looking, charismatic kids of a certain background would thrive. 

Or am I mistaken and these less visually fortunate specimens don't go A2A and tend to exit to more meritocratic buy-side gigs?

 

nutmegger189

pre-DEI

So they were more attractive before there were more minorities and more women?

Just say you're racist and gay and go brook

Notice this. My account is one boohoo muh 6 a billion reeee from death. Yet YOU go after this dude by using homosexual in the pejorative

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If the frat star doesn’t know what he’s doing I’ll kick him off the team within weeks as a client. But yes some social skills are required to be a successful senior MD. Director and below can often times just be total dorks. Even junior MD needs very little to no charisma. You only need so many senior MDs

 
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So you think non-white people are ugly and that offends you.

Seriously?

Opinions like this are why diversity hiring exists.  Seriously, someone should pin this post to the top of the Off Topic forum and link it every time we get another "I have a 4.0 and am in [insert third tier private university]'s finance club, how dare a bank give a job to a minority from a State school!" post.

Imagine being so stupid, so bigoted, and having so little awareness that you'd do what this OP did and actually complain that it is a problem that banks aren't hiring enough preppy white kids, solely because you think they're more pleasant to look at!

 

This is why diversity initiatives were needed, while I think recently they have gone too far a bit, before people who were making recruiting decisions based on how someone looks and fits in more easily excluded many others who were qualified but came from different backgrounds.

 

BitcoinBonanza

Nobody gives a shit about how bankers look, dude. Just run the numbers and arrange the boxes like you are told.

Lmao 100%. This and give us access to deal flow. Literally don't care about anything else.

OP the "financialization" of your client base is why what you're describing doesn't matter. Your client base is heavily indexed towards financial investors now who care only about returns -> deal flow access / intel. and not as much about kicking it w the boys 

 
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If you were the CFO of a F500 company looking for advisors for a $1bn+ divestiture, which group of bankers would you trust more? Which group of bankers look more competent? Which group of bankers do you think has deeper industry connections to strategic buyers and financial sponsors? Which group of bankers do you think are more polished and have better interpersonal, communication and sales skills?

The old guard of the likes of CVP/GS/PJT from the gilded halls of WHYP and raised in the timeless halls of Eton/Deerfield/Exeter/Andover or the other group?

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This is an odd thread. 

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
 

Americans in general are less attractive. Our country has gotten fatter, gayer, and browner. So have the banking classes.

"Work ethic, work ethic" - Vince Vaughn
 

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