Cop Killing Statistics (Myth Of Systemic Racism)
2019: 9 unarmed black men killed, 19 unarmed white men killed.
Black men commit around 30% of the total crime and near 50% of violent crime.
Their deaths are proportionate to the amount of crime they commit as a whole. This is not to discount police racism because it happens. Also, nobody should be getting killed by police if they are unarmed. I think the protests are a good thing, but why the focus on race? We should be talking about the real problem, which is police brutality.
You've come to the right place to discuss systemic racism. A website filled with white legacy hardos in an industry that is ridden with nepotism.
and why did you post two of these within 7 minutes... as if one wasnt enough
holy cow it's the barstool sports guy!
is this the actual dave portnoy bc holy shit thats dope
holy fuck imagine being this ignorant
i'm a minority. Tell me where I am wrong.
Mods ban him
Finally someone decided to say it. I’m happier thinking of pursuing a career in this country with the confidence that there are people like you who see situations objectively instead of try to frame everything on race race race and get so “microaggresssed” they “cancel” anything or anyone who mildly disagrees/shares a different perspective.
You know that person is a troll/fake/posting the same thing multiple times on here right?
I have trolled on here before, but I'm not trolling here.
We're gonna have more police brutality if all we do is blame it on race.
Thanks!
It's fucking hilarious that a clear troll can come in here and get insta bananas with shitty takes that confirm WSO's priors.
Black communities are also absurdly over-policed. Turns out, when you increase police presence to lower crime rates in a community, crime rates actually increase!
Turns out black men and white men smoke weed at the same rate but black men are more than 3x more likely to be arrested and charged when caught with it
Turns out black men are over 4x more likely to be arrested for pedestrian crimes (such as jaywalking) than white men
Turns out the MAJORITY of exonerees are black. In fact, black men are 7 TIMES more likely to be falsely convicted of murder than white men.
So if you’re using “crime rates” to justify why black people are disproportionately killed by cops, i’d really suggest researching the history behind our criminal justice system in relation to black communities.
As opposed to taking things at a surface level and spewing out — “Well black people don’t have nuclear families!”, “Well black communities have high crime rates!”, “well what about black-on-black crime!?” — I’d recommend digging deeper to understand 1) what’s the reality of those claims, and 2) if it is true, WHY. WHY are those problems persistent in certain communities? Almost like... the system we’ve employed for hundreds of years.... hasn’t been fair to black people..?
Can't forget that weed was literally criminalized to lock Black people up, or that the CIA planted crack in Black communities in LA to fund their Central American genocides and death squads. Look at sentencing guidelines for crack vs cocaine and tell me that's not racially motivated.
The CIA cocaine contra scandal is really dark when you read about it.. have you ever seen that movie about Freeway Ricky Ross? I forgot who it was but there was some whistleblower who mysteriously died, I’ve forgotten the details but a quick Google search will pull it up
You are making my point for me. It's about the problems in low-income neighborhoods, not race.
Kids getting caught smoking in the suburbs will get off easier than anyone in a low-income are.
Of course I agree that there was a racist system that has caused the income gap between black and white people (slavery, Jim crow). However, there is nothing stopping anyone from succeeding right now by law. Anyone can get a job and work their way up to middle class.
It's a lot harder in low income areas because of the environment
There’s a difference between “nothing stopping them from success” and “equal opportunity”. Sure, if I put you in a 400-meter race with another kid who gets a 200-meter headstart, there’s nothing stopping you from winning. Just work harder. It’s America. Don’t be a lazy victim.
But if there’s clearly BIAS in our system (see above points), then that negates equal opportunity. It is a systemic issue if poor kids are more likely to face harsher punishment, receive less access to educational and professional opportunity, etc, etc
You keep wanting to say it’s a socioeconomic issue, which, in large part it may be. BUT IF MINORITIES MAKE UP THE MAJORITY OF THE LOWEST SOCIOECONOMIC CLASS, then it becomes a systemic issue that disproportionately affects certain races. So, yes, it is partly a race issue especially because race issues put many minority communities into in this position in the first place.
Your argument is painfully basic, seriously flawed and fails to consider the difficulty in repairing the damage that was a result of slavery and Jim Crow. The system that created deep divisions in class and familial wealth perpetuates itself. Yes, overt racism was legal and encouraged during the 20th century, but changing the law does not solve the lasting effects of our country's past decisions. Reversing the effects takes generations of work in understanding the life of others and creating trust and empathy among all parties.
My parents came from the working class. I was always taught that work ethic and drive meant opportunity for me, and it has thankfully. I understand your perspective, as I once held it, but it is seriously problematic. The situation is so much more nuanced than the trite arguments stating that "racism is illegal, so everyone can work their way up through hard work and focus." The societal system that we all operate within today was created by white men for white men.
I'm not proposing that we "tear it down" and provide endless opportunity to people "less qualified." Instead, I'm suggesting that we seek to further understand the "why" behind peoples' stories. If we can get to that spot as a society, maybe those "substandard" testing scores, GPA, and work experience are truly an accomplishment based on one's personal context and narrative. Even if white men have worked their way from less than ideal childhood circumstances (my dad), there is an overwhelming body of psychological research that supports racial bias and preference for people that look and act similar to one's self. It's quite easy to see how this system then perpetutates itself, even many years after the end of slavery and Jim Crow.
I have no intention of engaging further in this debate on Wall Street Oasis of all places, but I did feel compelled to speak out. I certainly have no intention of reprimanding you for your thoughts, but I did want to add my perspective, as exposure to competing thoughts and ideas allows us to have the necessary and difficult conversations that so many of us avoid.
"It's the over policing that is causing black men to commit murder at 4x the rate of white men!"
"It's the courts! That's the reason black men commit 50% of violent crime! False convictions by the thousands!!"
Haha okay.
Exactly they just commit more murder.
That's like saying the justice system is sexist because 10 times more men are imprisoned than women
I don't get why you feel the need to be anon if you're gonna throw out takes like that. Too scared to own your comment?
Wow imagine being so ignorant and uneducated in 2020 lmao. And ofc upvotes from the upper middle class & rich kids who never had to struggle a day in their life
Go back to Reddit you fucking weirdo
Are you triggered big guy? Don't believe racism or systemic oppression is real? Thank God I'm not as uneducated and ignorant as you
like most white people, I had the pleasure of growing up in a 8 bedroom mansion when I was a single child. I can’t speak for those with more white privilege than me but we took Summer trips to Marty’s Vinyard and like most white people, we took our own private heli but wasn’t privileged enough to have our own helipad.
things got tough in College. I was accepted to a top school (think Harvard, Yale, Princeton) but of course my parents (like all white families) had to fund my education. I was lucky to coast my way through college and getting into an IB role as the Goldman Sachs.
I may not be a Kravis but I had a fair amount of white privilege and never tried in college. I think a lot people don’t understand what being white means you automatically are in a different bucket. I feel bad for the privileged individuals that came to America and complain about the country yet try to get citizenship. I get it, they aren’t privileged to their peers that didn’t come to America
whiteprivilegeain’tequallydistributed
White privilege doesn’t mean you didn’t have to work hard to succeed. It means that the color of your skin hasn’t served as a substantial barrier to your success (or safety). That’s it.
The fact that this is your take on what white privilege is tells me everything I need to know lmao
you seriously think a white person applying to a Chinese or Japanese company won’t be discriminated against either???
tells me all I need to know about your bimodal thinking, lmfao
I honestly think the term "white privilege" is racist and I'm not white at all. That poor white kid working at a gas station has no privilege and has much less privilege than a middle class black kid would.
Could you imagine the uproar if someone called affirmative action "black privilege"?
Issue is why more black people tend to get approached by the police more than people of other races.
Why is 30% of violent crimes committed by black people? That seems a lot higher than the percentage of the black population in the US.
Race aside, police in the US have wayyy too much power thanks to ridiculous amount of power that police unions have. It's always the union of skilled laborers that become abusive. Police brutality in the US is a symptom of a way-too-powerful police unions that went unchecked - allowing certain violent practices be condoned, allowing more bad eggs than there should be in the police force, and incentivizing the police to focus on catching more criminals rather than maintaining order (which they should do).
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