Recruiting is messed up and I'm not doing this....

I just got a resume today looking for summer 2025. Kid is an "incoming summer analyst" for summer 2024 and that is his first gig. This is like the third or fourth one like this.

So the expectation is I'm supposed to look at candidates with zero work experience, no qualifications other than having passed interviews for a job they haven't started, for a gig over a year in advance. 

When did recruiting get so inanely stupid? 

For the record, any of these resumes that come to me go straight into the trash. 

 

I think it was sometime around 2018 that recruiting started pushing into the sophomore summer instead of junior fall. Since then, it's been downhill since.

 

Because you either put incoming intern for summer 2024 or have a resume with 0 experience and get resume screened. From what I've been told the timeline keeps getting earlier and earlier as the top banks try to be the first ones to get top talent to sign with them.

 
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Can't wait for a wall of "2025 analyst class is incompetent"/"2025 associate class can't do anything" threads next year.

This is what happens when you recruit professional yappers and coffee chatters that don't get anything done.

 

They are sophomores, what else are they supposed to do. These larger banks recruiting cycles are forcing 18 yo students to nag the boutique banks around them for school year internships when they don’t want freshmen either, and routinely get annoyed with their immature interns. It really benefits no one.

 
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Hey Mr. Rabbit, if you'd like an extra set of hands to take off some of that busy work, recent MFin grad with great grades and soft skills here ready to take a FT role. 

 

I feel like their reasoning to include it would be: I am going to have experience in this position in 2024, and because I am applying for a position 1.5 years out as a sophomore, why should I not include what I will be doing this summer that I otherwise wouldn't be able to include if I weren't looking for jobs this early. I don't really find it all that mind-boggling considering the early recruiting cycle for finance. 

 

I feel like their reasoning to include it would be: I am going to have experience in this position in 2024, and because I am applying for a position 1.5 years out as a sophomore

How is next summer 1.5 years away? It is May.

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
 

When you say 'first gig' - how would a kid who had worked a summer job at McDonalds be viewed?

Corporate finance at Mickey D's isn't that bad of an experience. 

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
 

well its because all the good banks filled their class with students who have work experience + 2024. you are likely getting the ones that didn't make the cut at better banks or just found out about recruiting pretty late.

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