Hey has anyone ever worked with him or has interacted with him? We all have pretty much watched the “ are you destined to deal” uva lecture on YouTube; any insights on the guy(culture, work ethic etc) would be appreciated
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He is a partner MD in PWM Boston, not investment banker. Met him a few times for cross-divisional effort and a bit intimidating for sure. Heard he had several celebrity-girlfriends.
Wtf. Why is he talking about deals if he is in PWM?
I think the minimum account size at Goldman pwm is like 20m maybe 10m and they also do large institutional clients so it’s probably similar to selling as an MD in other divisions. Completely guessing this though. Either way he’s a rainmaker.
Eh it seems like if you actually read his bio is a way bigger hitter than a partner in PWM. Apparently he made partner in 7 years and has worked across divisions including IBD. "He’s best known for advising CEOs of large, multinational companies." For example his client was Bain Capital and Mitt Romney. He was asked to be deputy treasury secretary but turned it down. I don't know anything about the guy until now bc I was curious why people were asking about some random MD but his background certainly appears to be far more impressive than some MD in PWM.
Wasn't he accused of trying to kill his father?
Yes, but his father seems like (maybe) a psycho. Google their names. Old money family, big money disputes. Father was also a professor, a more famous one. My read of it is that the kids accused dad of sexual abuse after one of the sisters came forward, dad snapped and staged his own shooting, police saw through it, and he was arrested. Super bizarre all around.
He was slamming hope hicks(ded srs)
Good for him
🙌 to this dude for having multiple gfs after his wife cheated on him wat a comeback
wtf she cheated on him for a school teacher?!? gotta be more than meets the eye bout him Hicks is smokin tho
https://www.law.virginia.edu/faculty/adjunct-profile/jd3tr/2140720
This dude looks like every Hollywood attempt to portray a big shot banker/lawyer. I'd bet he's depressed on the inside
On the outside too
Thread keeps get more interesting with every post
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1) This thread is a total s***show. Anybody that worked with him knows he is psycho but you should learn from him as he is the best deal wise. The culture in his deal teams suck - if that's what matters to you go some place else.
2) A dude on his old team was beat up bad and left GS when this guy didn't help. The same dude came back a few months ago and he is probs the schizio. That dude worked very closely (deals, meetings, trips, schedules) with Jim for years.
Idk what to say. Some of the posts are bang on. Some sound totally bonkers. It sucks more now with the new accounts writing fake reviews.
3) His messy personal is old office gossip . He sees himself as gigachad. No way is he dating multiple celebs or anything. He dated 3 people in like 10 years lmao his personal is messy don't buy in. Idc about it. He is a beast at work and no one is better.
This guy FUCKS
How mad do you think Trump is that this ABSOLUTE banker CHAD is slamming Hope Hicks EVERY night (in crutches as well). Doesn't even need to be able to walk unassisted to be balls deep in Hope Hicks.
Hahaha facts! She looks kinda WASPy but super hot though.
One of the funniest thing I have read on this website
Ya which is y he has a truckload of NDAs. Gives off autistic vibes - turned out to be legit psycho when he didn't take his meds. He isn't famous nor should you look up to him. His own wife can't speak about him publicly. He's smooth .. cuz those meds remove all his emotions. Just a shell of a person. The Hopester is lucky she has options - he's does not. He's worse than the wifebeater.
This guy made me wanna be an investment banker,obsessed now,would love to work for him, has anyone worked under him ever,if so HOW?
Ya a few have. Bad experience all around. He's dangerous. Good on Hicks for getting away. She can do better than him (he takes anti-psycho meds). He's an insecure POS who had his juniors diss her on here to make himself feel good. No celeb GFs cuz u know he's not on his tranquilizers 24/7.
Seriously? Did she she do an exit stage right & run? I bet it's scary af to be his girlfriend just the same. F***ed if you didn't bring him over the Starbucks coffee like he wanted. SMASH in the sink...
This guy is the closest Harvey Specter ive seen in real life, literally imagined for a second being mike ross to him, thats the fucking dream
If prefer to be hope hicks to him, but thats just me
facts
That dude is straight out of central casting for a banker
If you watch the video, you realize he never once says the word “um”. Phenomenal speaker.
um nice
I had the unfortunate displeasure of working with this guy. He is the biggest suck bag; don't buy into this guy's BS. Such a jerk and so mean. Hope Hicks is not a celebrity or a model either. So she thinks, I'm sure. She worked in the White House briefly for Trump. Whoopy! No one in the Senate is a celebrity unless you're Trump, McConnell, Lindsey Graham, or Manchin. No idea how she kisses that guy..the disgusting junk that he is.
Hope Hicks is that you?
Effff no!!! You couldn't pay me a million dollars to pucker up to that sucker!
Spot on. He should star in "How to Live a Double Life by Jim Donovan." If u work at GS, u know he works in PWM out of Boston. He never worked in Cville.
He cheated on his wife & had a kid(s). His wife snapped, didn't accept the kid & had a public affair (WSO). That's y he dropped out as Trump's nominee. His family soap opera was gunna be public news.
He's the most egotistical guy at GS and if u work here, u know they forced him to be VC cuz his attitude/drinks were out of hand. He's a jerk who gets super angry if u don't worship him/see him as a gigachad. He's barely done any deals for years but is fine as VC cuz it's all acting.
When all his BS was going around the firm, he tried to greenwash his reputation with way younger women. Hicks being 1 of em. Guessing she dumped him or something cuz he got his junior staff to s**tpost her on here. Called her a tranny a lot and was very angry.
One day he exploded & leaked all his devilish ways & family stuff. Won't comment on anything that's personal for the kids.
Tl:dr he's psycho, an adulterer, made his wife a single-parent and threw her to the curb. Being one of the smartest at GS is useless when he's like his dad.
And ya with all those NDA's don't kid yourself about Hicks talking. Poor wife & kids.
this is just public slander and all factually incorrect. crazy to make this up about a person.
Watched a recent video of him lately and was shocked to see that his hair has greyed so much and has also aged a lot overall. He's just around 55 i think. In the Destined to Deal classic video he looks so young and chad (first time I heard of the term 'investment banking' honestly). Was also surprised he's smashing Hope Hicks since he mentions his family and kids multiple times - maybe he got divorced or smtg? Chad chad chad gigachad
thats pretty normal for a 55 year old dude under stress. nothing crazy. in some ways he looks better (tanner)
also normal to lose hair
This dude has so much money; you'd think he would have dropped a few bucks/ "invested" in some rogaine!
Still getting prime ass though
Ya cuz young and dumb r easy to pump and dump lmao
I have never watched that video. It comes up on my recommended sometimes, haven't watched it though.
Thanks for letting us know
Any videos of that guy would be set up on auto filter to a junk folder, under my watch...
Sounds like someone clearly isn't destined to deal.
Trump ain't that mad...he didn't offer Hicks any "hush money" payments.
This dude's just looking for arm candy to show off his rolex, and inflate his ego even higher.
He’s a mixed bag, super sharp dude, clear expectations and no BS with him. Bad is he’s super intense, sucks at office politics and will work you to the bone if you’re AN1/2. Didn’t work with him as an AN but he was super chill and a good mentor. Goes to bat for those under him. He’s in NY, Boston and TO. Personal life looks rough … his ex cheated on him publicly and looks like a rough divorce. Family isn’t old $$ he’s self-made. 5 kids young when he divorced. 1 at Ivy League on scholarship rest state schools.
I hope UVA Law makes another video of him this fall, always a great pleasure on Thanksgiving break!
UVA law granted your wish dude!
I saw that lmao it was the first thing on my YouTube recommendation today!
I always click on this thread to laugh at that post above with him on crutches banging hope hicks
Still is at Goldman PWM out of Boston, but serves a much bigger role almost Vice Chairman like hosting and visiting large clients across institutional, UHNW, and large firms. Very smart but very particular about work product
Hope Hicks ain't s***. Why is everyone so fascinated with her like she's Kardashian or Rhianna?? Everyone is so honed in on this dude's sex life. Who the "f***" cares! Take the million dollar make up & jewelry off her, then let's get a look.
He'll be using a cane soon, not crutches. My wife knocks her out of the park!
Hope hicks looks like a tranny
I don't want to jump into her shoes or wishing I was in her position. Ehhhh....You wouldn't be wearing shoes for half the role.
As for him & the crutches...he's in knee wobbling love so he has to walk with assistance every place they go.
After hearing reading all helpful insight about how he is and what he is like professionally...impressive, but I'd pass.
Don't care about his personal either.
Had him as a professor at UVA law for corporate strategy. Awesome dude, lectures very clearly and hosts small group sessions with students where he candidly answers questions about his career and life.
So as someone who’s graduated law school (and perhaps practiced law), what’s your take on him? My older sis is a practicing attorney and she’s really good at reading personalities. But she told me lawyers are the best liars. So since you’ve had him as a prof, do you think his advice is mostly true/false? And unrelated, but would you recommend a law degree for those not looking to practice law? I’m studying for the LSAT and considering applying next year but from my sister’s exp. don’t see myself working in law. And I have no way of knowing if 1/2 of what this guy says is true. As for Hicks, I agree she’s irrelevant to this thread. Thanks for your help.
Q1. Will not answer personal questions or speculate about him beyond saying he was a cool professor and very knowledgeable and composed. I would trust his career advice.
Q1a. Many lawyers, bankers and consultants are smooth talkers and have the personality to be good liars, particular if they are very good at regulating their emotions. I will not speculate on any individual.
Q2: Don’t go to law school for the express purpose of becoming a banker or consultant.
If you have no other reasonable options for accessing elite professional service careers, like Bulge Brackets or MBB, and would be happy with biglaw if it doesn’t work out and able to get into a T6 or higher, I fully endorse.
If you would be happy with biglaw with an even slimmer chance of MBB(and very slim banking chance bar a great market) and have the stats for a T14, I would also endorse but only if you’re really sure you’d be happy with biglaw, at least short term.
Also for both of those options, if you want to maximize elite employment odds, try to have 1-2 years of the best work experience you can get.
This is my advice and my advice alone. Classes and sessions did not cover whether to go to law school in the first place lmao.
I personally graduated into a rough market from a non elite school and got a decent job considering those factors, but would not have been a strong candidate for an M7 MBA. I wanted more and could get into a very good law school. While there, I tossed in initially why not MBB apps and then practiced casing and was pleasantly surprised with the outcome. A strong LSAT score is essential to the law school application process and can help with MBB as well. GPA is also very important for law school admission, though may be largely set already, and if not awful can be overcome at some schools with a particularly strong LSAT.
For people who make jumps to other professional services after biglaw, they normally make said jump from grade selective elite law firms. So grades matter in law school for a lot.
Start a new thread for this, albeit the above is great advice. Totally irrelevant to Donovan & why would you go to law school when unsure if you'd want to be one? Absolute waste of time & money.
Back to the original topic please...
With all due respect, the above monkey was asking how accurate Donovan’s advice is and if it is, then, chances are Donovan is an honest guy or at the very least, a guy you can trust.
That’s what everyone on this thread wants to know. It boils down to can you trust him? Would you choose him as a colleague if you were given the choice?
Eg. how does he behave on a day-to-day basis, fairly, strict, funny etc. That’s all.
Everyone else is asking questions that lead to the above 2 questions. Since you were his assistant in M&A, maybe you can shed some light on this. Take care.
Ok, fair enough. Never been this dude's assistant so I can't help you there.
No worries. His assistant wrote about him on the thread a few times so I thought it was you but I guess every MD probably has many assistants.
I used to look up to him for everything he's done for the firm. If you know what happened with him, you'd stay away too. His father was right on some level.
What level? He’s literally lvl 126+12 summoning.
He risks when he peekays and even helps noobs in education institutions by lecturing them with tutorials of becoming a rainmaker
yeah man the other guy that worked with him was right. He has a HUGE EGO. Thought he was a terminator with his work ethic. But the day he forgot his meds and spewed the truth, his real self (psycho) was out in full-swing. All that stuff he said about his dad, everyone, it was a shocker.
Where can we read what this person said about him?
What happened?
I work with him ... he's Axelrod all the way, not Specter. Can't say more, I'm AN1. He doesn't kno anyone's name. A loner.
What happened and what was his father right about?
Being an a**hole is a weak person's idea of strength. Their only connection in life is to complain and raise their voice.
Agreed. Ppl who worked with him tryna say the truth. These prospects r wearing rose tinted glasses. Google their names for the court docs and u can see there's gotta be something or it wouldn't be sealed. U can learn from his vids but don't buy into the hype.
K so he's a groomer.
Damn I’m invested but wtf happened with his father
All i want to know is if more uploads are coming out......
People give way too many f**cks about this guy. Someone asking me a question just brought me back here. Whether it be the way he walks, talks, sex, sux, sin, the father. He's so undeserving of all this attention and hype. Although a great place to go for those who actually have had encounters or real life experiences with him. Maybe an occasional chuckle. Who gives a f**k about this guy. Dang! Life's too short to keep feeding this guy's ego. Narcissism is a personality disorder in the real medical world, that digs deeper than being the bfa. You just stay the hec away from them/him. This guy is never going to change, he will just switch the victims!
My $0.02 is his persona captivates others until they see the other side. He's not atypical in the world of HF. But awareness matters because he supervises new staff/ is dating much younger women (outside of GS) & WSO is like the only place they could get a clue. It looks like everyone is afraid to say anything about him but I encourage you to do so because you have no idea who you could be saving.
I can't; my experience would sound like a handritten, two page letter out of a diary. Just play Michel Jackson's, "Thriller", and "Mr. Grinch." That ought to provide great transparency for ppl of what it's like working with this guy...he's a mean one!
Cant imagine the type of banker that would write this comment
Not the above analyst. I worked with him in Boston. He's exactly like Patrick Bateman from American Psycho irl. Extremely slick, smart and knows what to say to make things happen. He is a cardboard cut-out of what you imagine a GS MD is. If $$ is all u need in life, he is ur guy. He loves options alright. Was dating 4 chicks at once his names -- 1. Ho Hicks 2. biz deal 3. old money "churchy" 4. bankerella. Calls himself a gigachad. He said he's testing them out to be the VC's wife - more powerful than the royal family not kidding. Funny how he said buying Hicks services to avoid banging the others. But can't bring her to client events or ppl would run. What a slick b******. Coordinated 4 versions of himself haha.
This dude is fucking wild. What an insane thread.
Saw a few videos of him on tiktok (the UVA lectures) and the guy seemed smart.
What an insane dude lmao
Never heard of this guy but his thread is always active lmao ... Googled his name ... insane.
"Oh my gosh--
I met this guy briefly at a sports event that both of our kids attended at (his son was student there as was mine) and he was an epic ASS. I literally called a friend as I left to tell her that I had just encountered the biggest douche of my life. It was Donovan."
Suprised he actually took his elite a** over to one of those games & showed up in person.
1) Of course he is super nice and helpful on the UVA vid's; students are paying to go there and the university is paying him. He can't act like Agent Smith to them. It's all a calculated pretentious front this guy is putting on. UVA is an indirect in-part client/ putting $ in this guy's pocket.
2) On the flipside, GS is paying the employee(s)/students, so money is now coming out of the pocket. So he thinks he has allowances to bully and treat ppl as mean as he wants, cuz he is a rainmaker at GS. They company more or less allows him to as well, which is too bad.
3) What is this guy aiming for, slapping up vid's of himself every month online? Just validation seeking for egotistical acknowledgment, that he's some Wall St. legend, which he is not.
3) Lastly, if Hopey Hicks, ("omg, like, she's sooooo like, freeeaakking gorgeous!"), is going to wed this dude, she obviously is an absolute dip s**t, and could have done way better than this guy.
He also say's "he doesn't do social media", but you can follow him on Sh**t Tok and Nit-Witter/"EX."
I'll send him an anonymous marital congrats; a cheap cigar Aficionado with a note attached...he can suck off!
Do you know if Hope Hicks broke his marriage? Googled his name, landed on a forum "Hope Hicks engaged to Goldman Sachs boss" and the stuff on there sounds straight out of a movie.
Nah, he crossed paths with her a few times walking down the corridors in the White House, after his divorce. They somehow made a connection. Sure the dude just dropped his GS title to her and that was a strike gold for her. He was toying with the idea of being Trump's advisor.
Does this guy have 4 or 5 kids?
Was told he owned the relationship to pull the Kroger-Albertsons deal
Explain.
He was the lead man to land advising Albertsons. Very close with Cerberus who owned Albertsons
If you worked with him, is he dating multiple women atst? Or is he bringing different women to firm events or something? Something about him seems off.
I have no idea what that guy does when visiting other cities & attending corporate events. I don't think Hicks would allow for that, but if Donald Trump almost got away with all those undercover affairs, porn s**t, anything is possible. The probability that he'd get a 35 year old woman again wouldn't be very likely, so it would be a big gamble on his part.
He seriously dates/dated at least 3 other women since 2019. Within GS, Hope Hicks is appreciated by many. I can't go into more detail, Goldman honor code.
I wonder what his MO is. He sounds insane.
Associate in IB at GS:
I worked in NY on 4 transactions with Donovan over the course of about 6 years. The first 2 I was an analyst the second two I had been promoted to associate.
All four were sell side mandates where Goldman (Donovan) had been hired to sell a client of Donovan’s. All four deals were large. 1 was a public company and 3 were private companies. I say all of this to give context. I worked closely with Jim and had more and more interaction with him on each deal as I became more senior (and competent).
It was, in short, a fantastic learning experience. Everyone at Goldman in IBD knows of the Lore of Jim Donovan. Most young people have watched his videos.
I have never seen a banker with more control over the process and outcome. Donovan conducted himself just like he does and says in his videos (two of which I have watched). He is poised, super knowledgeable and can oddly “see around corners” as the deal unfolds.
The most recent deal was we were selling a company and Donovan strongly urged the CEO to accelerate the process because he advised inflation could spike, raising interest rates, and killing valuations and the deal. The client listened, we sold the company relatively quickly, and sure enough the M&A market crashed a few months later as inflation took off. The client was both amazed and extremely grateful. Donovan was firm in his advice. He took control and never wavered.
After working on two deals
With Jim I requested to be staffed on the following two and was lucky enough to be able to work on 2 more. Pretty much every junior person at GS wants to work with him.
In addition to watching and learning from the best banker in the world on these 4 deals I also asked Jim to have coffee (in his case tea) at one point and he didn’t hesitate. He scheduled and spent a hour with me giving me career advice. I have bumped into many mentees of Jim’s from analysts to Partners. Not only is he a superb investment banker and client guy, he is also a very good person who is super generous with his time.
Hey man just remember to zip him up when ur done.
Spat my drink out reading this. The # of things this monkey got dead wrong/opposite about Jim is hilarious.
Bro actually made an account for this. Yh Jim might just be Bateman
Great! No one has ever challenged the fact that he is a great IB; he's a big rain maker at GS with a massive net worth. Of course he tones down any bark to anybody in the IBD dept, cuz those are where most of the highest ranking leaders sit.
Employees who have worked with him have experienced his constant "must, you better, or else" attitude that scares tf outta people at times, along with his obsessive need for control, power and self perceived brilliance. His grandiose sense of self importance and self arrogance, with no regard to employees. States in his vid's "never use jargon with a client." I have been screamed F bombs by that guy over the phone before, which is totally and completely unacceptable behavior in the work place.
No regard for employees, only the client, client, client; all that his videos are about. He needs to WATCH several vid's about corporate culture and ethics in the workplace; screw how many deals this guy has done. Sounds like your experience with him at GS is a fantasy composition he paid money for you to post. Glad you had a such a fab experience with this guy. Doesn't sound like the Jim I know pal...
Dude knows what he's talking about. Do us all a favor and talk about how he does deals from start to finish.
For those who work with him, does he lie often/daily? All I wanna know.
How many deals have you worked on with him?
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Dear Jim,
Thanks for posting! Can we set up tea time for one hour?
His family sounds awful. Reading the articles like blah blah blah his father accused him of trying to kill him? What?!?! Can't believe they bought a house Ghislaine Maxwell lived in? Creeeeps
I had the distinct pleasure of meeting Jim & working with him occasionally during my 10+ year (& counting) career at Goldman Sachs. Years ago, he left the impression of showing sheer professionalism, calm demeanor and cunning patience. But this is just an act I am convinced he practices regularly. He is the best actor on deals that I worked with. Everything about him is calculated. Nothing is left to chance. This may appear "competent" at the start but as time went on, I no longer recognize the Jim I met on Day 1.
Never did I imagine commenting on WSO for the fear of being found out. But seeing others step forward inspires me to do the same. Jim is extremely cunning, wants what he wants no matter what, super selfish and very intense. If he is not psycho, I don't know who is. I will say Jim gets deals done no matter what which looks great on the surface. If you know what goes on at Goldman to achieve these deals, the saying Goldman Sachs is home to the most paranoid people in the world rings true. Jim swears all the time. If you watch the UVA videos closely there are minor glimpses into his true personality. I don't know if he is stressed out all the time or what but DO NOT GET ON HIS BAD SIDE NO MATTER WHAT. I cannot say more because it would be too obvious.
Everything about Jim is about calculations and control. Jim's favorite word must be control. He controls his image very closely. Jim kept his family life and professional life completely separate and again, he said he does that for control. He was divorcing before Trump's election and closely knit with the Republicans. I don't know how many kids he has but he dropped out as treasury secretary as his wife was expecting. Hope Hicks is a household name within the firm. All of his girlfriends are around her age/young. I can't say more or my identity will be toast but I will say he acts traditional and I can't believe he would cheat. I sound redundant but he sought out his girlfriends, again, nothing random about him. The American Psycho vibes are strong.
Just want to add I have nothing to do with M&A or GS...but reading these stories are WILD. Either someone is making a bunch off accounts to dog this guy or he is INSANE. Either way makes for great reading about a psycho
Highly likely the same guy. Seen a schizo like this on this one thread on the European forum so could tell pretty easily. Nonetheless, dude still pissed someone off enough to routinely do this for over a week straight and making multiple accounts and he does have some dodgy news articles on him online so I wouldn't be surprised. Here's what gpt outputted after submitting pretty much every suspiciously similar comment and I asked it to point out if there was any similarities in the writing style:
It's far longer than a week. Can't wait for him to give up.
1. Both. The user ain't hard to guess - scroll.
2. Thread is in a public forum & the comments blew up.
3. Ngl it's disturbing to read comments from other parents affirming Donovan as psycho 10 years ago.
Hope Hicks is the hottest person to work in politics.
She's a total bombshell who likes psychos. Idk if these comments are cappin but Hopey's history points to Jim being psycho.
Incredibly saddened to read comments about Jim in such poor taste. I met Jim through his community outreach work. Jim is charismatic, a great speaker and highly detail-oriented. He truly made an earnest effort to provide meaningful guidance to our charity which is rare in the non-profit world.
As a person of faith, I encourage others to refiect on their actions and seek positive resolution going forward. I do not wish to minimize your experience(s) and wish you all the best in your healing.
This guy is the most famous MD at GS.
Don't get me started on him. He calls me at 530 am on a weekend expecting me to send him updated work in a few hours. No warning nothing. He is a super angry guy who is very controlling.
I heard he can’t cut his own hair. Which is bad for banker
I am fortunate to work with Jim Donovan at the analyst and associate level. If you think he is great in his YouTube videos, in person, he is simply outstanding. From the 1st meeting, Jim follows an agenda and sets clear goals for everyone in the deal team. He is very patient with clients and thoroughly explains all options making sure the client is not left in the dark. I have never met another banker who is as resolute, systematic and precise as Jim. I cannot reccomend working with him enough.
The WORST
Word on the street is the schizio is a high level ex-Goldman guy roughed up by Jim's staff. Jim didn't do nothing about it. Dude is still pissed. He left Goldman & came back a lil while ago.
Wdym by "high level" ?
Nah I'm positively convinced Donovan IS psycho. What a sucker.
My guy prolly had Gordon Gekko posters as a kid.
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