Duke Guide: Tips and Info on What to Do at Duke if Interested in Business/Finance at Duke

I thought I would write this out as I would like to give back a bit of knowledge to the forum. For context, I am a senior at Duke and have interned in / going FT to IB, keeping a bit vague for anonymity. This post hopes to serve as a guide of what resources/clubs are available to you at Duke and what I would recommend after being a part of quite a few of them. First, I loved my time at Duke and also think the finance pipeline has improved tremendously in my time here. Feel free to pm me or ask questions for specifics.

Social Business Organizations (Business Frats): These are all co-ed social and professional groups that generally run a relatively selective rush process involving social events and some type of interview. Each has a distinctive vibe and different pros and cons, but none are traditional frats with hazing, etc. (a worry I have heard from freshmen).

Scale and Coin: Considered the hardest of these organizations. Conducts a relatively rigorous training process for their pledging. Has a large percentage of the top finance kids and a strong culture of finance mentorship. Also has students interested in consulting, entrepreneurship, etc. Still social to a degree, but most students have friend groups or other social organizations outside of Scale and Coin. Join this if you are interested in finance/business and willing to grind during the pledge. Likely the group you will learn the most from, but is also more of a commitment during training.

DSP: Had been considered similar to Scale and Coin but has had trouble as of late as they were not able to recruit due to issues with nationals. Generally thought of as less hard and slightly more of a social crowd. Less finance-focused than Scale and Coin and less of a time commitment around the pledge. Likely will learn less directly from DSP compared to Scale, but still helpful to be connected to upperclassmen who can answer questions. Join if you don't want to grind during the pledge and are just looking for a network of people with similar career interests.

AKPsi (Formerly DBS): The newest of these three groups had been called Duke Business Society. Less selective and has been less of a tight-knit group but is trying to become more similar to the above groups. The least commitment of the three of these groups, but also likely the least reward.

Interest-Specific Clubs: The Investment Club (I-Club) is The most notable traditional finance club on campus. Conducts a class that, if passed, certifies you and allows you to interview to become an analyst. Once you are an analyst, you will be placed on a sector team and be responsible for pitching ideas from your sector. If you are interested in finance, this is probably the most important/helpful club to join. You will see a large amount of overlap of people in the previous organizations mentioned and those in I-Club, although Scale and Coin have been the biggest feeder. Most Exec members in I-Club have very strong placement across banking, PE, and hedge funds. Join this if you think you want to do finance and want technical experience and something to put on your resume that demonstrates interest. 

Duke Impact Investing Group (DIIG): Also a solid organization but more focused on early-stage investing/finance and also have a lot of non-investing divisions (Consulting, Business Development, Data). There are some members in both DIIG and I-Club, but most are in one or the other. In general, this group attracts fewer cookie-cutter finance students and more of those who may be interested in VC, impact investing, and entrepreneurship. Join this if you are interested in their mandate and care less about technical preparation.

There is a myriad of other groups (consulting club, catalyst, etc.), but the two mentioned above are the most applicable for the majority of people on WSO.

It is also worth mentioning there are a few identity-based groups. Business Oriented Women (BOW), Black in Business (BiB), Latin Business Organization (LBO), etc. These are all great communities and very supportive groups. You will see many members of the previously mentioned groups also in their respective identity-based groups.

My advice is that if you think you are interested in finance or business, you should begin looking at these organizations as soon as possible. Freshman year is the easiest time to join these groups, and the people you will meet in them will be able to guide you through recruiting and career decisions in college. All of these groups are relatively selective, so if you don't end up in any given one that you wanted, don't sweat it. The most valuable thing about any of these groups is the people you meet and the mentors you can find. People at Duke are, in general, very friendly and willing to help interested underclassmen, so reach out to those who have taken a path you are interested in and ask for their advice.

Please feel free to ask any clarifying questions in the comments.

 
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Duke student here, never met a good person from Scale and Coin just saying…

 

Actually in neither of them and still placed well, just seems like most of them are tools from anecdotal experience

 

Good info. I’m currently entering Sophomore year at Duke and Econ/Finance track. I’ll be looking to be part of a couple of these clubs. I also have read the IB internship process begins early. Could you talk about this a bit and what happens with no internship acceptances? Do students just intern later for different sectors? Lastly how competitive is getting any internship( fairly reputable) from Duke and how should a Sophomore proceed? Thank you for your time, I’ve also really enjoyed it at Duke. History: no connections, relatively low income Caucasian. Currently 3.9GPA

 

I am not sure what you mean by no internship acceptances? If you mean students that get no offers throughout the recurring cycle, some students decide to recruit for other industries that recruit later (consulting, corporate strat.) also most students who take recruiting seriously will end up with at least one offer from a bank / fund even if it is not the most 'prestigious' shop. 

It is certainly competitive but drastically depends on the company / role. I wouldn't concern yourself too much with how competitive it is, as if you are relatively smart (which it sounds like you are) and willing to put in the work you will be a strong candidate for plenty of desirable roles. The odds of landing any given role is low for almost anyone, but you only need 1 offer that you are happy with and there are plenty of great firms. If you want to do finance I would highly recommend doing ITP / getting involved with the investment club as that is the best resource for recruiting prep on campus. Also you should take Econ 256 in the fall, but don't think the course will fully prepare you for recruiting. You should prioritize making relationships with upper classmen who have been through the recruiting process and will help you prep for it and explain what to learn. Over the summer before your sophomore year I would recommend trying to work on some technical prep yourself (400 questions etc.)

Hopefully this is helpful

 

duke non-div slots also go overwhelmingly to nepotism hires/those with connections in the industry. definitely not a duke exclusive problem, but worth noting when seats are being filled by students with parents who are MDs, co-heads of IB, on the investment committee of MFs.

don’t be lulled into security if you start working hard as a freshman and think just bc you go to a target or are diversity that you can outhustle your peers.

 

This.....

So very true. Just finished my own SA process at Duke and landed a BB

You would be surprised how many of your peers at Duke come from money, like actual money. I know multiple billionaires and loads of centi-millionaires at duke who want to do finance and use their resources to do so. 

Don't kill yourself if you don't get to where you wanted to - realize that recruiting is unfair but so is the world. your first job is the in to finance and hard work and competence can beat rich backgrounds in the long run!

 

Of course not everyone is going to receive a top offer, and of course those with connections are going to have an advantage, but you can 100% give yourself a good shot at a top offer, and a great shot at a very respectable offer at Duke regardless of background. I and multiple people I am friends with had 0 nepo and are non-diversity and all succeeded in recruiting. It is not guaranteed, but if you are interested in it, it is certainly worth pursuing. 

 

Definitely! I think anyone at Duke who wants to enter banking can absolutely succeed, especially if they start early and search out resources. A lot of students forget that there are options beyond GS/MS/JPM or whatever MF/EB

IMO going to Duke for banking is similar to going to a feeder boarding school for college admissions. The top 25% will have no problem getting into the roles/schools of their dreams. But even if a bank has ~4 Duke interns every year, 2/4 might be students with connections. So there's a bit of a misconception of "is it Duke that helps students succeed" vs. the type of connections that students have that would have gotten them in from any university. 

 

Class of 2024 here, recruited and received offers in BB IB/MM PE (ultimately decided to go a different path). While I would agree that recruiting will be hard as fuck if you're non-diversity with no family connections, it can be done (me as an example). For example, just do a quick search on LinkedIn (incoming investment banking summer analyst) and see how many asian american kids we have going to BBs/EBs, of whom I know personally do not come from obscenely rich/connected families. I think recruiters/interviewers are able to generally gauge intelligence (finance and non-finance) and passion for the industry, which allows those who really focus on understanding finance, taking the time to network, and studying technicals to end up in successful positions.

For example, if you pass ITP and become an analyst in I-Club, you are essentially guaranteed a BB/EB/Buy-Side position because of the network + people respect that it is so insanely difficult to become one. For my process (I am not an analyst in I-Club), it was something like 200 people take the ITP test, only like 40-50% pass, and then only a certain amount of people even get interviews, of which ~10 eventually are selected.

Last thing. I'd estimate that there are roughly 75 spots across all of IB/Buy-Side for Duke students. Let's say on average that each BB/EB takes 3 (while GS/MS/JPM take 6-7 each year, Citi/UBS/DB don't really recruit for IB and are essentially 0). So roughly 60 people for BB/EB and 15 for Buy-Side Jobs. There are probably 200+ people gunning for these positions. Competition is tough, make yourself stand out.

Edit: Forgot about S&T. I didn't recruit for this and none of my friends are doing it so can't really speak to it. Maybe that makes up the last ~25 spots, so ~100 spots in all of high finance internships for Duke kids.

 

Class of 2025 that just recruited. Maybe this is a tough year but I know ITP analysts that struggled through recruiting/did not get top slots. The top slots went to women/nepotism, a lot of people you never knew wanted finance until the eleventh hour. Very frustrating for a non-diverse, non-connected guy like me who hit the ground running Day One to get a shot. I signed with a good bank (not top-tier) that usually takes UVA/Michigan/Wharton so I had to go outside the Duke network where we are considered "non target" for this bank. The post above saying 7 to JPM and MS is wildly, wildly inaccurate. We send a decent handful to GS/BofA but it is very nepotism/diversity heavy. Same thing with Blackstone. If I were you, I would start networking everywhere now because it will be an uphill battle in this hiring market if you are non-diverse and not wildly connected.

 

Ah I'm sorry to hear about the discrepancy in results for the class of 2025, I was speaking from the POV of class of 2024 and previous years, where the results I mentioned were generally pretty consistent. Ofc this isn’t a great job market.

 

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